Comments on: My Cousin Interviews with Bill Boorman (video) http://www.cornonthejob.com/guest-blogs/my-cousin-interviews-with-bill-boorman-video/ Wisdom for Job Seekers Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:53:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Vinay http://www.cornonthejob.com/guest-blogs/my-cousin-interviews-with-bill-boorman-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1447 Vinay Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:24:59 +0000 http://www.cornonthejob.com/?p=1251#comment-1447 yeh i agree. having a solid figure in mind is important before you start the process. If you drop your pants just to get the job, you will always be on the short side. negotiations are usually more flexible when you are switching jobs, vs your yearly review raise. so getting the most you can from the start is super important. yeh i agree. having a solid figure in mind is important before you start the process. If you drop your pants just to get the job, you will always be on the short side.

negotiations are usually more flexible when you are switching jobs, vs your yearly review raise. so getting the most you can from the start is super important.

]]> By: Vinay http://www.cornonthejob.com/guest-blogs/my-cousin-interviews-with-bill-boorman-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1446 Vinay Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:19:22 +0000 http://www.cornonthejob.com/?p=1251#comment-1446 hahaha - note to self - don't bring in any of Corns relatives/friends/colleagues/pets for an interview hahaha – note to self – don’t bring in any of Corns relatives/friends/colleagues/pets for an interview

]]> By: Rich DeMatteo http://www.cornonthejob.com/guest-blogs/my-cousin-interviews-with-bill-boorman-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1443 Rich DeMatteo Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:31:11 +0000 http://www.cornonthejob.com/?p=1251#comment-1443 Jason - I definitely agree. Being a corporate recruiter, I wasn't happy about hearing what they wanted at the beginning of the process, although if they were out of range, and we found out early, then that saved us a bunch of time. Jason – I definitely agree. Being a corporate recruiter, I wasn’t happy about hearing what they wanted at the beginning of the process, although if they were out of range, and we found out early, then that saved us a bunch of time.

]]> By: Jason Davis http://www.cornonthejob.com/guest-blogs/my-cousin-interviews-with-bill-boorman-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1442 Jason Davis Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:35:40 +0000 http://www.cornonthejob.com/?p=1251#comment-1442 Rich, Bill - okay, I agree with that - from an agency recruiter perspective, completely understandable. Corporate recruiters may have tendencies closer to hiring managers (with regard to saving the firm $$), even though they will likely be incentivized to close reqs as well, so they will still want the candidates to get the job, especially because it will improve their reputation if they are consistently getting hits and filling positions quickly. Rich, Bill – okay, I agree with that – from an agency recruiter perspective, completely understandable. Corporate recruiters may have tendencies closer to hiring managers (with regard to saving the firm $$), even though they will likely be incentivized to close reqs as well, so they will still want the candidates to get the job, especially because it will improve their reputation if they are consistently getting hits and filling positions quickly.

]]> By: BillBoorman http://www.cornonthejob.com/guest-blogs/my-cousin-interviews-with-bill-boorman-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1441 BillBoorman Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:16:31 +0000 http://www.cornonthejob.com/?p=1251#comment-1441 Thanks for all your comments, and Mr.corn for hosting me. Jason, with respect to salary, remember this is a recruiter interview not a hiring manager. A recruiter will always get you the highest possible salary because the higher the salary, the higher the fee. What a good recruiter will establish is the lowest affordable salary because that is the point where they can make a decision on wether to talk to you about a job or not. This needs to be explained to the candidate at the meeting. In terms of hiring manager interviews, I've always advised my candidates to not get involved in auctions. If they feel short changed, they might take the job out of desperation and then be exiting fairly soon, which is no good for anyone. I advise candidates to have calculated their bottom line before the interview, based on their overheads and some left over. You also need to factor in what they believe is a reasonable reward expectation for the position that they would be happy with. I've see too many candidates short changed, or not really think through an offer because they had not prepared or really thought through what they could accept as well as what they wanted. Ill feeling on either side at the offer stage does not bode well. Better to put your cards on the table if pushed, leave a little room for maneuvering and have prepared a few justification statements to explain why you are worth what you are asking for. Hope this helps, be ambassadors for great recruiting, Bill Thanks for all your comments, and Mr.corn for hosting me.
Jason, with respect to salary, remember this is a recruiter interview not a hiring manager. A recruiter will always get you the highest possible salary because the higher the salary, the higher the fee. What a good recruiter will establish is the lowest affordable salary because that is the point where they can make a decision on wether to talk to you about a job or not. This needs to be explained to the candidate at the meeting.

In terms of hiring manager interviews, I’ve always advised my candidates to not get involved in auctions. If they feel short changed, they might take the job out of desperation and then be exiting fairly soon, which is no good for anyone. I advise candidates to have calculated their bottom line before the interview, based on their overheads and some left over. You also need to factor in what they believe is a reasonable reward expectation for the position that they would be happy with. I’ve see too many candidates short changed, or not really think through an offer because they had not prepared or really thought through what they could accept as well as what they wanted. Ill feeling on either side at the offer stage does not bode well.

Better to put your cards on the table if pushed, leave a little room for maneuvering and have prepared a few justification statements to explain why you are worth what you are asking for.

Hope this helps, be ambassadors for great recruiting,
Bill

]]> By: Marty McDonald http://www.cornonthejob.com/guest-blogs/my-cousin-interviews-with-bill-boorman-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1440 Marty McDonald Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:09:27 +0000 http://www.cornonthejob.com/?p=1251#comment-1440 You are right... it will be better with "Corns" on it. AND that my friend sounds like a challenge! You are right… it will be better with “Corns” on it. AND that my friend sounds like a challenge!

]]> By: Rich DeMatteo http://www.cornonthejob.com/guest-blogs/my-cousin-interviews-with-bill-boorman-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1439 Rich DeMatteo Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:54:59 +0000 http://www.cornonthejob.com/?p=1251#comment-1439 Liar - no way will you do that Liar – no way will you do that

]]> By: Rich DeMatteo http://www.cornonthejob.com/guest-blogs/my-cousin-interviews-with-bill-boorman-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1438 Rich DeMatteo Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:54:41 +0000 http://www.cornonthejob.com/?p=1251#comment-1438 Hey Jason - I tend to agree with you - but when first meeting an agency recruiter, sometimes they need to know where they can pitch your resume at. I think that is where Bill was going with this. The agency side, they sometimes want to know what range they can toss you in. Thanks for the comment! Hey Jason – I tend to agree with you – but when first meeting an agency recruiter, sometimes they need to know where they can pitch your resume at. I think that is where Bill was going with this. The agency side, they sometimes want to know what range they can toss you in.

Thanks for the comment!

]]> By: Marty McDonald http://www.cornonthejob.com/guest-blogs/my-cousin-interviews-with-bill-boorman-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1437 Marty McDonald Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:51:52 +0000 http://www.cornonthejob.com/?p=1251#comment-1437 I am getting a Flyers Jersey with Mr. Corns on it! I am getting a Flyers Jersey with Mr. Corns on it!

]]> By: Jason Davis http://www.cornonthejob.com/guest-blogs/my-cousin-interviews-with-bill-boorman-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1436 Jason Davis Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:51:36 +0000 http://www.cornonthejob.com/?p=1251#comment-1436 Bill, Rich, Interesting video and definitely some good points in there. I'd like to debate some more over the salary piece - I'm not a huge proponent of job seekers throwing out a number too early in the process - I think it really opens up the potential to either price you out of the job or sell yourself short before you have even had a good discussion about what you bring to the table, and what the company can offer. Timing is critical when talking salary, in my opinion. Good stuff though, keep it coming! Jason Bill, Rich,

Interesting video and definitely some good points in there. I’d like to debate some more over the salary piece – I’m not a huge proponent of job seekers throwing out a number too early in the process – I think it really opens up the potential to either price you out of the job or sell yourself short before you have even had a good discussion about what you bring to the table, and what the company can offer. Timing is critical when talking salary, in my opinion.

Good stuff though, keep it coming!

Jason

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